"But I can't kill anyone," said Jonathan. "You know that, Orvar." "Not even if it's a question of your own life?" said Orvar. "No, not even then," said Jonathan. Orvar couldn't understand that, and neither could Mathias. "If everyone were like you," said Orvar, "then evil would reign forever." But then I said that if everyone were like Jonathan, there wouldn't be any evil."