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it's almost like, sometimes, I'm not a participant in my own life. I'm an observer of that guy who's doing it. So, if I'm having a conversation with you and we're trying to discuss a point, I'm watching and saying [to myself], 'Wait, am I being too emotional right now? Wait a second, look at him. What is his reaction?' Because I'm not reading you correctly if I'm seeing you through my own emotion or ego. I can't really see what you're thinking if I'm emotional. But if I step out of that, now I can see the real you and assess if you are getting angry, or if your ego is getting hurt, or if you're about to cave because you're just fed up with me. Whereas, if I'm raging in my own head, I might miss all of that. So being able to detach as a leader is critical.